Basketball tournaments on the Sabbath

Jean Dudley jean.dudley at gmail.com
Sun Mar 4 13:35:31 PST 2012


Seventh day Adventists keep Saturday sabbath like Jews do, sundown to sundown. Or did when I counted myself among their numbers 35 years ago. 

On Mar 4, 2012, at 4:55 AM, "Saperstein, David" <DSaperstein at rac.org> wrote:

> Hmmmm…… Take off for the Jewish Sabbath and see what you miss – even on the religion law listserve.  Must be a good lawsuit in this somewhere, but I leave it to Stern to figure out J
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> Just an historical footnote Alan: The Puritans observed the Sabbath from sundown  Saturday until sundown Sunday.  Don’t know if any sabbaterian sects still do that.  May be some small ones.
> The case Marc Stern alludes to is:  Playcrafters Student Members v Teaneck TP. Bd of Ed, 88 NJ 74 (1981) 438 a.2d 543.
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> Knowing how many rabid sports fans dominate this list:
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> FORT WORTH, Texas -- An inspired comeback in the fourth quarter fell short Saturday night and a state title eluded the Orthodox Jewish high school basketball team from Houston.
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> Robert M. Beren Academy closed a 12-point deficit to two in the final minute, but could get no closer in a 46-42 loss to Abilene Christian in the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools' Class 2A championship game at Nolan Catholic High School.
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> From: religionlaw-bounces at lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-bounces at lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Armstrong
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> Subject: Re: Basketball tournaments on the Sabbath
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> I think that is not relevant.
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> I thought the Saturday afternoon/evening mass was for those who could not make it to church Sunday morning.
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> An Orange County Register columnist, Frank Mickadeit, called it the "slakers' mass."
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> On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Marci Hamilton wrote:
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> Lots of Catholics go to Saturday evening mass.   Relevant?
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> On Mar 3, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Alan Armstrong <alanarmstrong.com at verizon.net> wrote:
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> My understanding is that Jewish and 7th day adventists consider sabbath as going from sundown on Friday to sundown on Saturday. I do not know of any christian denominations that use sundown Saturday to sundown on Sunday as the Lord's day.Therefore a Saturday night game should be acceptable to all.
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> A little thought and common sense and we would need fewer lawyers.
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> On Mar 2, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Douglas Laycock wrote:
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> Some of you may have seen the story in the Times the other day about the Beren Hebrew Academy in Houston, whose basketball team has reached the state semi-finals of the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools tournament. The semifinal game was scheduled for tonight; the Academy is Orthodox and observant, and could not play.  The other school was willing to reschedule, but the TAPPS Board voted 8-0 not to allow that. Most TAPPS members are church affiliated, and as a matter of policy, it never schedules games on Sunday.
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> Beren parents and students filed a lawsuit this morning in the Northern District of Texas, alleging unconstitutional religious discrimination, Texas RFRA, and breach of contract (based on a provision in the TAPPS bylaws). The complaint’s state action theory was that the game was scheduled to be played in a public school gym, which is surely not enough. The contract claim looked stronger, judging only by the complaint.
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> Richard Friedman at Michigan tells me that TAPPS caved as soon as the complaint was filed, and that the game will begin imminently and will be completed before sunset.  If your position is utterly untenable as a matter of public relations, it may not matter that the other side’s state action theory is very weak. But they had to file the lawsuit before common sense could prevail.
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