still waiting for concrete examples
Douglas Laycock
laycockd at umich.edu
Mon Jun 22 20:14:52 PDT 2009
Pretext suggests they did it out of hostility to Islam, or to religion. Maybe so. Far more likely, they made a judgment in which they placed zero value on religous liberty, and focused only on whatever safety risk there was, however small or remote. Facts matter, as Marci said, and the dominant fact here is 20 years of experience with no one hurt. If any one had ever been hurt, that would have been the city's exhibit A.
Quoting Hamilton02 at aol.com:
>
> Art-- We may only be talking to each other at this point, but the facts
> matter in these cases. So why do you think DC moved to an across-the-board
> rule regarding beards and why does the rule appear in fire companies across
> the country? If it was all a pretext, why not just give up and let
> everyone wear a beard?
>
>
> In a message dated 6/22/2009 9:03:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> ArtSpitzer at aol.com writes:
>
> In a message dated 6/22/09 1:31:13 PM, Hamilton02 writes:
>
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>
> I have to ask Art one question-- It seems quite clear from the record
> that there really is a danger to those with facial hair in responding to
> emergencies....
>
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>
> Those not interested in the minutiae of the case can press delete now.
> I've pasted below a short (500 word) excerpt on safety from my opposition to
> the Fire Department's petition for rehearing. The petition was denied.
>
> Art
>
> III. This Case Does Not Present a Serious Issue of Public Safety.
>
> The District urges the Court to apply a ?particularly strong? preference
> for resolving this case on the merits, because ?public safety is at issue.?
> Pet. at 8. But the district court's judgment poses no threat to public
> safety.
> The D.C. Fire Department, as a matter of official policy, allowed hundreds
> of firefighters to wear beards from sometime before 1973 until mid-2005.
> [Citation.] While initially limited to men with a skin condition, from 1994
> until 2005 all employees were permitted to wear beards, and many did.
> [Citation omitted.] It is uncontradicted that these thousands of
> man-years of
> bearded firefighting did not result in a single safety problem. [Citation.]
> At the very outset of this litigation, the retired Chief of Safety of the
> F.D.N.Y. explained in detail why facial hair does not undermine the safety
> of an SCBA [Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus]. [Citation.] Faced with
> that compelling evidence, the Fire Department did not appeal the preliminary
> injunction issued at that time, and made no effort to pursue the
> litigation in the district court for four years, during which time
> all firefighters
> remained free to wear beards. [Footnote omitted.] That changed in 2005,
> when the district court grew tired of having this case sit dormant on its
> docket and ordered the Fire Department to file within 15 days ?a plain
> statement of what its official policy is with respect to facial
> hair.? R. Doc. 60.
> Seventeen days later the Department announced the new policy that is at
> issue in this case. R. Doc. 61.
> When called before the district court to justify the new rule, the Fire
> Department represented--at length and unambiguously--that its safety concern
> was limited to the use of negative-pressure respirators in circumstances
> not requiring the greater protection of SCBAs. [Citation.] The Department
> explained that ?what we're worried about is a situation where you have to go
> into a contaminated area for an extended period of time,? and an SCBA
> would not be suitable because ?once the air runs out, that's it,? while ?
> negative pressure masks . . . will allow them to work. They can
> work the eight
> hours. [Citation.] That explanation never changed until after summary
> judgment had been entered.
> The district court rejected the District's argument on the ground that it
> had not adduced credible evidence that in such a situation ?bearded
> firefighters . . . could not be redeployed either 'up' to areas of
> duty where
> SCBA use is required, or 'down' to cold zones where no respiratory
> protection
> is needed.? Mem. Op. at 19. The District did not contest that ruling on
> appeal.
> The record here should therefore leave the Court entirely comfortable that
> its affirmance of the district court's judgment creates no danger to the
> public safety of the District of Columbia. The handful of bearded
> firefighters and paramedics protected by the permanent injunction in
> this case can
> hardly be cause for alarm in light of the undisputed fact that the D.C. Fire
> Department protected the city for more than 30 years with hundreds of
> bearded firefighters, without a single beard-related safety incident.
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