Snowbowl decision
Hamilton02 at aol.com
Hamilton02 at aol.com
Mon Jun 15 11:32:04 PDT 2009
After thinking more about Judy's comment, it hit me that the discussion of
Snowbowl really seems surreal to me. The Snowbowl claim was esoteric,
shall we say? I don't doubt sincerity, but when one compares a claim to
have artificial snow made of a certain type of water against child abuse, it
is jarring. There are lots of decisions far more troubling. Take, for
example, the Wis Supreme Court's decision in Pritzlaff (rejecting tolling of
statutes of limitations for victims of clergy based on the First Amendment
but no other victims) remain standing, the issue seems precious. I raise
the clergy abuse issue because it is being litigated over and over again,
with real world consequences. And now that the Latter-Day Saints have joined
the Catholic Church in Oregon in heavily lobbying against statute of
limitations reform for child sex abuse victims, I guess we know who has serious
problems in this context and why the issue is not going away anytime soon....
Tom mentions Mockaitis. Would Mockaitis have been decided differently
under the Snowbowl reasoning, if taken in the context of the 9th Cir's
precedents in general on the burden issue? For me, the Mockaitis decision goes
way too far, seeming to say that there is an impregnable privilege around
confession that might even extend to situations where a member of the clergy
knows about a murder or incest that is going to happen in the future. But
that is I suppose a question of government interest rather than burden?
Anyway-- I'm interested in other concrete examples of practices that
should be protected that would not be under the Snowbowl rule.... (This
request has no time limit-- I've been waiting several months for listserv
members to provide examples of religious practices that have been burdened and
prohibited that should have been protected since Smith was decided....).
Where I'm sitting, Smith has been the means of liberation for the
vulnerable, but I am always interested in knowing what is actually happening on the
ground to test my conclusions.
Marci
In a message dated 6/15/2009 11:47:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
JBAER at politics.tamu.edu writes:
I prefer facts to ignorance
Marci
So do I, Marci, and your book is full of well documented facts. Of course,
so are Kitty's books, and the criticism she gets is vicious compared to
what
you get. Just thought the comparison might get a rise out of you.
Best,
Judy
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