Is First Amendment viewpoint-discriminatory against antigayspeech?

[Susan Freiman]

Doesn't this depend on how you define informal violence?  Having done 
divorce law, I'd say the major purveyors are spouses - including verbal 
and emotional abuse of adults and children.  Having raised a child, I'd 
say TV shows.  Having read classic children's literature, I'd say The 
Brothers Grim.  Having watched amateur theater, I'd say bad opera 
singers, bad ballet dancers.  And what about Mickey Spillane?  Modern 
art?  Preachers threatening their congregations with hell?  And what 
about the OT god himself?

Susan

Volokh, Eugene wrote:
> 	Help me out here:  The major purveyors of informal violence --
> murders, robberies, assaults, and the like -- are *not* street thugs?
> Who are they then?  The Phelps crowd?  Politically motivated right-wing
> activists?
>
> 	(I should say that as to one important class of informal
> violence, which is rape, bedroom thugs -- date-rapists -- are a more
> major purveyor than street thugs; but street thugs are a major category
> even there, and *the* major category as to the other kinds of violence.)
>
> 	Eugene
>
>   
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>> No, the major purveyors are not street thugs.
>>
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>> Volokh, Eugene
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>> against antigayspeech?
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>>
>> 	The major purveyors of informal violence are street thugs.
>> Politically motivated violence, whether motivated by left 
>> ideologies (anarchism, labor extremism, the Weather 
>> Underground, the Black Panthers, the Black Muslims) or right 
>> ideologies (racism, anti-gay ideology when hostility to 
>> homosexuals was a matter of ideology rather than as a matter 
>> of social routine, as it has often been in the past), is 
>> fortunately pretty rare.  Whether one categories violence 
>> that's partly influenced by general praise of violence and of 
>> violent lifestyles -- for instance, the violence that is 
>> glamorized by some rap music -- as "left," "right," or 
>> something else is an exercise left to the reader.
>>
>> 	Eugene
>>
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