Falwell: Not Necessarily The Person That You Think
Susan Freiman
susan.freiman.law.65 at aya.yale.edu
Thu May 17 23:22:11 PDT 2007
Thanks. I appreciate this.
I appreciate barbs, too, but only if they're clever.
Susan
Paul Horwitz wrote:
> Pace Paul and Susan, the question is whether such a discussion, which
> takes place over the body of the deceased, as it were, is likely to
> elicit any actual discussion of law and religion issues, even broadly
> construed, or whether it will devolve into a simple trading of barbs
> over whether Falwell himself was a good or bad man, or over the
> political views of the Moral Majority. I confess that I thought that
> Jim Henderson's original email, although well-intended, was unlikely
> to lead to such a discussion, and should best have been passed over in
> respectful silence by the rest of the list. Not much I have seen
> since on the list has led me to conclude otherwise.
>
> Now, one could use the occasion to discuss matters of more moment to
> the list. I could think of several such questions. First, what was
> more relevant to the growth of the movement that Falwell spearheaded:
> the Court's rulings in cases such as Roe v. Wade, or its rulings in
> cases involving the application of antidiscrimination laws to private
> schools and universities? Was the broader moral component of the MM,
> including advocacy on issues like abortion, its wellspring, or was it
> simply part of a decision to focus on issues that best conduced to
> coalition-building among disparate religious and ideological groups?
>
> Second, and I think related to the first question, is this: For a time
> in the 1970s, Falwell advocated that evangelical Christians retire
> from the political fray and concentrate on prayer and the formation of
> a more perfect religious community. That position has its roots as
> far back as Roger Williams' concern that the garden of religion would
> be corrupted by the wilderness of politics: not that separation
> (voluntary or legal) was necessary to protect politics from religion,
> but in order to protect religion from politics, in the sense that
> religious involvement in politics would corrupt the religious
> participants. It continues to find occasional echoes in calls for
> religious retirement from active involvement in politics from folks
> like David Kuo. Falwell obviously ultimately took a different route.
> But which was the right route? Were the MM and other such groups
> salutary for both religion and politics, or is there a genuine
> *spiritual* concern about the corrupting effects on religion of
> political involvement? And even so, is that longstanding concern one
> that has mandatory implications for the Establishment Clause, or is it
> merely a statement about the risks of voluntary participation in
> politics by religious individuals, and one that perforce is for
> religious individuals to decide for themselves without any threat of
> legal enforcement? Even if that's so, is it not cause for deep
> reflection by the religious individuals themselves, and does one run
> any risks in the religious/political community for saying so?
>
> Third, one might more provocatively note the parallel between the
> death of Falwell and the contemporaneous death of Yolanda King,
> daughter of Martin Luther King, Jr., whose own involvement in politics
> was both profound and profoundly motivated by religious concerns.
> Aside from the possibility that many folks on this listserv might
> praise King's positions and condemn Falwell's positions, is it not the
> case that both deaths are reminders of the salutary, emancipating
> effect of two leaders who gave voice to, and helped others find a
> voice for, the view that religious individuals can be
> paradigm-shifters when they are fully entitled to participate in
> political discussion? And is it a meaningful or relevant distinction,
> or even true, that the civil rights movement succeeded more deeply
> than the MM, in part because it found ways to translate its concerns
> into secular as well as religious language? Whatever the answer to
> that question, is it fair to say that, however different their
> positions might have been, we can see deep linkages between Falwell's
> death and the death of a member of the King family?
>
> Finally, although I'm not sure this is really a religionlaw
> discussion, one might note that Falwell was responsible for the rise
> of what might be a distinctly new and influential creature, although
> others might offer earlier examples: the genuinely and openly
> religious law school and, more to the point, the genuinely and openly
> religious lawyer, at least of the (speaking broadly) evangelical
> variety. One might fairly ask what deep conflicts face the person who
> wishes to be both a good lawyer and a good Christian, or Jew, or what
> have you: what conflicts there are between serving one's client, or
> one's political mission, and serving a higher duty; whether all the
> tools available to cunning lawyers, in both the judicial and the
> political process are appropriate tools for the religious lawyer; or
> whether the deeply religious lawyer is bound by obligations of
> integrity and ethics that necessarily hobble him or her as a lawyer.
> This, it seems to me, is the interesting question surrounding figures
> such as Monica Goodling, and I've written on my blog that while I have
> absolutely no problem with the mission of Regent Law School to place
> its graduates in positions of power, such schools, rather than
> boasting about the positions of influence its graduates have reached,
> ought to ask whether they are graduating enough whistle-blowers,
> enough individuals who were willing to sacrifice their influence for
> the higher good of demanding integrity in the performance of public
> office.
>
> I think these are all useful questions, and am happy to offer them up
> to the list for discussion. But I doubt they will occur in a context
> in which we are simply asking: Falwell -- good or bad?
>
> Paul Horwitz
> Visiting Associate Professor
> Notre Dame Law School
>
>
>> From: Susan Freiman <susan.freiman.law.65 at aya.yale.edu>
>> Reply-To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
>> <religionlaw at lists.ucla.edu>
>> To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics <religionlaw at lists.ucla.edu>
>> Subject: Re: Falwell: Not Necessarily The Person That You Think
>> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:44:27 +0300
>>
>> I would appreciate a continuation of the discussion. I lurk on this
>> list because I enjoy learning about this area of law.
>>
>> Susan
>>
>> Paul Finkelman wrote:
>>> much of Falwell's life was dedicated to undermining the establishment
>>> clause, and indeed quite openly working for the establishment of his
>>> faith as the official faith of America; it seems to me that any
>>> discussion of his career is in the end a discussion about
>>> constitutional
>>> law, unless Eugene, Will, and Sandy somehow think that on law, and
>>> especially con law, is only about legal cases. If that is so then we
>>> should just discuss Hustler.
>>>
>>> I have always wondered why Falwell (or any of those in his church) were
>>> reading Hustler in the first place.
>>>
>>> Paul Finkelman
>>> President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law
>>> and Public Policy
>>> Albany Law School
>>> 80 New Scotland Avenue
>>> Albany, New York 12208-3494
>>>
>>> 518-445-3386 pfink at albanylaw.edu
>>>
>>>>>> SLevinson at law.utexas.edu 05/16/07 10:28 PM >>>
>>>>>>
>>> On this one I tend to agree with Will (unless we want to get into a
>>> discussion of Falwell v. Hustler, one of the shining lights of our
>>> contemporary jurisprudence!).
>>> sandy
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: religionlaw-bounces at lists.ucla.edu on behalf of Will Linden
>>> Sent: Wed 5/16/2007 8:57 PM
>>> To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
>>> Subject: Re: Falwell: Not Necessarily The Person That You Think
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, what are the LEGAL implications of Falwell's death? Or will the
>>> list
>>> just become all-argue-about-Fawell, all the time?
>>>
>>>
>>> Will Linden wlinden at panix.com
>>> http://www.ecben.net/
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