alarming new law?
Susan Freiman
susan.freiman.law.65 at aya.yale.edu
Mon Dec 17 23:38:46 PST 2007
Would a resolution for Secular Humanism violate the Constitution? No
need to answer - I've been reading Daniel Conkle's book, and not only am
I enjoying it, I'm learning that this question cannot have a simple answer.
S
Richard Dougherty wrote:
> Well, maybe you will; see below. Congress does this sort of thing
> regularly. (Haven't seen one for atheists yet, but I can't keep up.)
>
> Marty: Do you think the "whereas" you cited that was left out was
> omitted because it was too over the top, or because the wording of it
> might actually divide Christians? (I'm thinking of the specific
> reference to the Bible especially.)
>
> Richard J. Dougherty
>
> Resolution on Buddhism (Vietnam):
> http://usinfo.state.gov/dhr/Archive/2003/Dec/01-499319.html
>
> Resolution on Judaism:
> http://www.350th.org/commission/Jewish%20350th%20Res%20passes%20Joint%2011-24.pdf
>
> Resolution on Islam:
> http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&x=20071003165444mlenuhret0.9762384&m=October
> <http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&x=20071003165444mlenuhret0.9762384&m=October>
> On Ramadan:
> http://pewforum.org/news/display.php?NewsID=14293
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Jean Dudley" <jean.dudley at gmail.com>
> Sent 12/15/2007 11:12:13 PM
> To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" <religionlaw at lists.ucla.edu>
> Subject: Re: alarming new law?
>
> It's not a law, it's a "non-binding resolution". Legally, it's
> pabulum. Still, it's a waste of the House's time, IMO. What effects
> it has on society at large is up for speculation. I see it as
> indicative of a wider mindset that Christians are "persecuted" here
> and the world over. Of course they are; As are Jews, Muslims,
> Atheists, Buddhists, and every other cultural subset. Susan, you and
> I will not live to see a resolution like this passed for any other
> religion in the good ol' US of A.
>
> Jean
> On Dec 15, 2007, at Sat, Dec 15, 8:49 PM, Susan Freiman wrote:
>
>> This just came to me from an atheists' list. Is it true?
>>
>> Susan
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
>>
>> *PRESS RELEASE*
>> *FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE*
>> *The Council for Secular Humanism Chides Congress for Disrespecting
>> Religions
>> *
>> (December 14, 2007) -- Experts from the Council for Secular Humanism
>> noted with alarm the passage of H. Res. 847 in the House of
>> Representatives. This unnecessary, unwarranted, and bigoted law,
>> under the misleading title "Recognizing the Importance of Christm as
>> and the Christian Faith" passed the House with overwhelming
>> bipartisan support It effectively undermines the sort of religious
>> tolerance necessary in these changing times.
>>
>> Just days ago in the midst of the Jewish Festival of Lights, four
>> Jewish men in New York City were attacked on the subway for replying
>> to a group of ten people who wished them a "Merry Christmas" with a
>> similar greeting: "Happy Hanukkah. For this, these men were first
>> insulted, then beaten. It was a Muslim man who came to their physical
>> defense. The actions of the Congress, by passing the resolution and
>> thus expressing preference to the Christian faith over all the others
>> represented by the diverse population of these United States ,
>> encourages this sort of behavior.
>>
>> The First Amendment's guarantee of religious liberty, and of the
>> nonestablishment of religion, was devised to create a secular state
>> in which all religions would be equally tolerated and none given
>> preference. The language of the House resolution effectively
>> undermines the design of the Founders, and creates an atmosphere
>> where non-Christians will continue to be targeted, treated like
>> second-class citizens, and even become victims of violence like those
>> four Jewish subway riders in New York .
>>
>> Paul Kurtz , CSH chair, stated, "It is deplorable that in this day
>> and age and in light of violence against religious minorities here in
>> the United States that the Congress would stoke those flames with
>> preferential language in support of a single religion." David
>> Koepsell , CSH's executive director, noted, "Te First Amendment
>> Guarantee was designed to prevent the sort of religious intolerance
>> that resulted in violence in Europe, and our Congress should respect
>> the intent of the Founders."
>>
>> We call on the Congress to reject this resolution, to stand up for
>> religious freedom, secularism, and pluralism, and to foster a climate
>> in which all believers and nonbelievers alike are treated equally.
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