Trivial Pursuit
paul-finkelman at utulsa.edu
paul-finkelman at utulsa.edu
Mon Aug 14 06:27:14 PDT 2006
Permoli is interesting for the politics of New Orleans but otherwise it is a reaffirmation of Barron, that the BoR does not apply to the states.
Paul Finkelman
Quoting Mark Graber <mgraber at gvpt.umd.edu>:
> Here is real trivia. What about Pernoli, the 1850ish case
> holding taht
> the federal government was not obligated to obey the first
> amendment.
>
> Mark A. Graber
>
> >>> DLaycock at law.utexas.edu 08/13/06 1:03 PM >>>
> Here is a potential source of endless pointless debate. Two
> professors
> are working on a mathematical model to rank the importance of
> Supreme
> Court decisions. They want to test their model against the
> subjective
> assessments of con law professors. So they asked me and I
> assume many
> others to rank order the twenty most important cases on a
> topic I knew
> well. My caveats, and my list, are below.
>
> Douglas Laycock
> Alice McKean Young Regents Chair in Law
> The University of Texas at Austin
>
> Mailing Address:
> Prof. Douglas Laycock
> University of Michigan Law School
> 625 S. State St.
> Ann Arbor, MI 48109
>
> [addressee deleted]
>
> I am at last responding to your letter of June 26, asking me
> to
> list the twenty most important cases in my field, in order of
> importance. I have to emphasize that this is an essentially
> arbitrary exercise, for many reasons.
>
> My topic is religious liberty. It is a tight knit area with
> a
> manageable number of Supreme Court cases. But it could be
> divided
> into three or four more homogenous subcategories, with some
> overlap;
> if I did that, we would of course get different results.
>
> How does the most important case in possible subcategory 1
> compare
> to the most important case in possible subcategory 2? That
> depends
> in part on how I rate the importance of the possible
> subcategories.
> It also depends on the clarity of the rules in each category;
> a
> single case that clearly resolves an important issue is more
> important than a case that introduces equally dramatic change
> but is
> unclear and leaves much unresolved. Citation frequency is
> likely to
> depend on the number of cases the Court reviewed in each
> possible
> subcategory.
>
> Some cases are of great symbolic importance but little
> authority.
> In this field, Everson v. Board of Education and Lemon v.
> Kurtzman are such cases. They are famous and much cited but
> control
> almost nothing; Lemon does not make my top 20. For this and
> other
> reasons, citation networks may measure something different
> from
> authoritativeness.
>
> A case may be very often cited but now overruled. Lemon is
> not
> there yet, but it's close. So are Sherbert v. Verner and
> Wisconsin v. Yoder. These three cases now stand for something
> very
> different from, and less than, what they originally stood
> for.
>
> Cases are important for different reasons, which are often
> incommensurable. Cantwell v. Connecticut is a confused
> opinion on
> its not very important facts, but it incorporates the Free
> Exercise
> Clause into the Fourteenth Amendment. How does that compare
> to an
> opinion that clearly resolves a dispute over a much more
> important
> and recurring fact pattern?
>
> West Virginia v. Barnette is important at least as much for
> its
> eloquence as for its rule, and cited mostly for its famous
> quotations. How does that compare to authority on the
> merits?
>
> How does a statutory opinion on important facts compare to a
> constitutional opinion on less important facts? How does a
> clear and
> decisive statutory opinion compare to a muddled
> constitutional
> opinion?
>
> Some cases are very important to religious liberty but are
> decided
> on free speech, freedom of association, the scope of
> Congressional
> power, or some other related ground.
>
> And so on and on. You may hope that your mathematical methods
> will
> cut through all this qualitative uncertainty and reveal a true
> order
> of importance. Maybe it will. But it may also cumulate
> distinct
> reasons for citation that are not additive.
>
> Probably you have thought about these problems. But I had to
> mention them before give you a list that, in my view, took
> longer to
> produce than it is worth. With those caveats:
>
> Topic: religious liberty
>
> 1. Zelman v. Simmons-Harris, 536 U.S. 639 (2002)
>
> 2. Employment Division v. Smith, 494 U.S. 872 (1990)
>
> 3. Church of the Lukumi Babalu Aye, Inc. v. City of
> Hialeah, 508 U.S.
> 520 (1993)
>
> 4. School District v. Schempp, 374 U.S. 203 (1963)
>
> 5. Lee v. Weisman, 505 U.S. 577 (1992)
>
> 6. Engel v. Vitale, 370 U.S. 421 (1962)
>
> 7. West Virginia Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S.
> 624 (1943)
>
> 8. Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao do
> Vegetal, 126
> S.Ct. 1211 (2006)
>
> 9. Locke v. Davey, 540 U.S. 712 (2004
>
> 10. Boy Scouts v. Dale, 530 U.S. 640 (2000)
>
> 11. Board of Education v. Mergens, 496 U.S. 226 (1990)
>
> 12. Cantwell v. Connecticut, 310 U.S. 246 (1940)
>
> 13. Good News Club v. Milford Central School, 533 U.S. 98
> (2001)
>
> 14. City of Boerne v. Flores, 521 U.S. 507 (1997)
>
> 15. Van Orden v. Perry, 125 S.Ct 2854 (2005)
>
> 16. Cutter v. Wilkinson, 544 U.S. 709 (2005)
>
> 17. Jones v. Wolf, 443 U.S. 595 (1979)
>
> 18. Everson v. Board of Education, 330 U.S. 1 (1947)
>
> 19. Wisconsin v. Yoder, 406 U.S. 205 (1972)
>
> 20. Sherbert v. Verner, 374 U.S. 398 (1963)
>
>
>
>
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