John Lofton/Oaths

[Steven Jamar]

OOPS.

I meant mutually exist.  An editing problem.

Sorry.

Steve

On Jul 29, 2005, at 8:04 PM, Steven Jamar wrote:

> Jim, are you seriously saying that pluralistic and tolerant are not  
> able to mutually exclusive?  A society cannot be both pluralistic  
> and tolerant?  I've never heard tolerance offered in contrast to  
> pluralistic.  I've only ever seen them hand in hand -- we are  
> pluralistic and tolerant of difference that comes along with being  
> pluralistic.  I guess I've missed something.
>
> While I may not substitute salt for sugar, I will use both in one  
> recipe.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Jul 29, 2005, at 6:23 PM, JMHACLJ at aol.com wrote:
>
>>
>> In a recent posting, the term pluralistic was used to describe our  
>> society.  Word choices are, or are not, deliberate.  I was trying  
>> to flush out the choice, and its purpose.  I "pressed" the  
>> question only in the sense that I continue to ask for arguments on  
>> one side or the other.  I am asking because I come to the table  
>> with an impression about these two words and what kind of thinking  
>> is reflected in the choice of one or the other.
>>
>> In this case, the choice was pluralistic, rather than tolerant.   
>> We may be pluralistic by design.
>>
>> I have also read and heard, especially in an earlier day, our  
>> society referred to as a tolerant one.  And in those cases,  
>> tolerance was offered in contrast to pluralism.
>>
>> Obviously, neither pluralism or tolerance are adopted by those  
>> terms as the official governmental ethic in the Constitution of  
>> the United States.  Perhaps some use the terms interchangeably,  
>> even though they would never substitute salt for sugar in a cookie  
>> recipe.
>>
>> I asked whether a textual argument for one choice or the other  
>> exists.  After all, if the Constitution makes us one or other,  
>> rather than our preferences doing so, the proof of the point  
>> should be at hand.
>>
>> Jim Henderson
>> Senior Counsel
>> ACLJ
>>
>
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>
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Howard University School of Law                           fax:   
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