UW Service requirement

Steven Jamar sjamar at law.howard.edu
Wed Nov 10 14:06:10 PST 2004


Comes back to the disagreement mentioned by someone else earlier -- 
religion is a special case in all respects.  Non-discrimination is not 
sufficient.

On Wednesday, November 10, 2004, at 04:06  PM, Volokh, Eugene wrote:

>     Hmm; can a university really say that converting people to a 
> belief about gun control, or animal rights, or environmentalism is a 
> "community service," but a belief about following some religious moral 
> code, and some religious route to salvation is not?  Is the government 
> entitled to value persuasion to some such viewpoints more than 
> persuasion to other such viewpoints?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: religionlaw-bounces at lists.ucla.edu 
> [mailto:religionlaw-bounces at lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Jamar
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 1:01 PM
> To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
> Subject: Re: UW Service requirement
>
> Well, one might be a community service and the other not. Providing a 
> forum for and presentation of political discussion and viewpoints is 
> not the same as doing that for a particular religion.
>
> Steve
>
> On Wednesday, November 10, 2004, at 03:41 PM, Volokh, Eugene wrote:
>
>     Seems to me hard to see how a university can give "community 
> service" credit for student speech advocating controversial political 
> viewpoints (presumably viewpoints of the student's own choice), but 
> deny credit for student speech advocating controversial religious 
> viewpoints.  I recognize that the university might take the view that 
> persuading people to support gun control is a community service, but 
> persuading people to accept Jesus is not -- but I don't think it can 
> discriminate among student causes based on that viewpoint.
>
>     Eugene
>
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