Justice Thomas in Newdow
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Fri Jun 18 07:37:23 PDT 2004
In a message dated 6/18/04 5:02:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
stuartbuck at msn.com writes:
The "lunatic fringe" certainly seems to include a lot of intelligent
scholars:
As human beings so frequently demonstrate, intelligence (is there a pun in
here somewhere?) can certainly be misused in the service of "bad" ends.
And, Jim Henderson, your sarcasm does little to advance your argument.
"Actually, with respect to the pledge. . . perhaps the Supreme Court
retrenched and I missed that case. . . . But I'm left to shrug my shoulders and
give a constitution-bound sigh."
What I find lacking, especially in those who would argue for a weak
Establishment Clause, is any honest attempt to put into practice some of what I
consider the two related but fundamental religious/moral principles: "Do onto others
as you would have them do onto you" and "Love your neighbor as yourself." Both
of which exhort us directly or indirectly to empathize with/put ourselves in
the position of the person not like ourselves. And incidently I find are
related to Rawls' notion of "design a legal system as if you didn't know your place
in society."
I often wonder how many who argue for a weak Establishment Clause/the
discarding of any Establishment Clause test other than coercion (and that with
coercion narrowly defined)/making the Establishment Clause inapplicable to state
governments (a la Judge Roy Moore) are members of minority religions or
nonreligious themselves. It is a great irony that the Baptists argued so fiercely for
separation of church and state when their faith was weak and they were
outsiders now that they are in a position of strength argue against the very
separation that allow their churches/denomination to flourish--see The Churching of
America. I write this with the knowledge that some Baptists continue in
their denomination's historic opposition to government "entanglement" with
religion.
In the context of religion clause jurisprudence "do onto others" and "love
your neighbor," mean that religious people actually put themselves in the shoes
of adherents of minority religious or in the shoes of the nonreligious
individuals, which is even more difficult, and look at the law, policy, or practice
through their eyes. It means truly and honestly making a good faith effort
(not merely paying lip service) to put oneself in the place of the person unlike
yourself and consider the effect of the law, policy, practice on you in your
new persona.
Frances R. A. Paterson, J.D., Ed.D.
Associate Professor (school law)
Department of Educational Leadership
Valdosta State University
Valdosta, GA 31698
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