The President and the Pope

[Newsom Michael]

What is the mortal sin that Kerry is guilty of?  I assume that it takes
being in such a state to warrant a Catholic reaching the decision that
he or she should not take communion?
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Amar D. Sarwal [mailto:adsarwal at dcappeals.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 10:25 AM
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics
Subject: Re: The President and the Pope
 
 
The dilemma for the American bishops is not whether Kerry should be
taking communion.  He should not.  The dilemma is whether the Church
should withhold communion in light of his refusal to abide by Church
norms.
 
It is interesting that this listserv notices every religious/political
action of the President, but not his opponents, such as the attempt by
47 Democratic/Catholic lawmakers to browbeat the bishops into a
favorable position or Kerry's meetings with influential bishops around
the country (presumably to make his case).  
 
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	----- Original Message ----- 
	From: RJLipkin at aol.com 
	To: religionlaw at lists.ucla.edu 
	Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 9:02 AM
	Subject: Re: The President and the Pope
	 
	In a message dated 6/14/2004 8:45:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,
marty.lederman at comcast.net writes:
		I'm asking whether such conduct would be appropriate for
a President who took his constitutional obligations seriously.
	        Does this ask for our intuitions on the appropriateness
of such conduct or a theory of what "is appropriate for a President who
took his constitutional obligations seriously"? Or both?
	 
	        How would Marty's examples differ from the President
asking the Pope to ask religious leaders around the world to denounce
terrorism? Or suppose the President opposed a war in Iraq conducted by
Nato without assistance from the United States.  Would it be
'appropriate' for the President to ask the Pope to urge Nato leaders or
bishops in Europe and the United States to speak out against the war?
	 
	        It is difficult (at least for me) to find even soft
(non-justiciable) reasons against such presidential conduct.  This does
not mean that I would hesitate to vote against a president who asked the
Pope to instruct American bishops to denounce action I approve of. 
	 
	Bobby
	
	
	Robert Justin Lipkin
	Widener University School of Law
	Delaware
	
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