Justice Ginsburg
Janet Alexander
jca at stanford.edu
Sat Feb 7 19:03:39 PST 2009
Another question is, what happens when a Justice is unable to attend
the oral argument but is back at court when the case is
decided? When I clerked the understanding was that a justice who
couldn't be present for oral argument would not participate in the
decision. The idea was that oral argument should at least be treated
as though it is important. I believe that rule was breached in
recent times, I believe by conservative justice(s).
At 01:05 PM 2/6/2009, Scarberry, Mark wrote:
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>I don't think there was any rule that the incapacitated Justice's
>vote wouldn't count, but just an understanding that Justices
>wouldn't write or sign on to an opinion if the incapacitated
>Justice's vote would be the necessary fifth vote. That could leave
>some cases undecided for a while, but that may not be so bad. Of
>course the understanding wasn't binding, and each Justice would
>exercise independent judgment in abiding by it.
>
>Mark Scarberry
>Pepperdine
>
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>To: stevenjamar at gmail.com
>Cc: CONLAWPROF at lists.ucla.edu
>Subject: Re: Justice Ginsburg
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>Steve Jamar wrote:
>
> "Strikes me as over-the-mark positivist to say that the
> court can't do anything unless there is positive language in the
> constitution saying so."
>
> I don't think positivism has anything to do with this
> issue. In a so-called "limited government" possessing so-called
> "enumerated powers," I don't think discussion of these issues
> requires one to take a stance on jurisprudential theories. In any
> institution unstated practices will inevitably develop. That
> hardly means democratic citizens seeking accountability should
> simply accept whatever the institution does as legitimate.
>
> Consequently, as to a discussion of the internal
> organization of the Court, including decision-procedures, I can
> only say such a discussion is a long time overdue.
>
>Bobby
>
>Robert Justin Lipkin
>Distinguished Professor of Law
>Widener University School of Law
>Delaware
>
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>Essentially Contested America, Editor-In-Chief
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>In a message dated 2/6/2009 8:28:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>stevenjamar at gmail.com writes:
><http://www.essentiallycontestedamerica.org/>
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>
>On Feb 6, 2009, at 7:54 AM,
><mailto:RJLipkin at aol.com>RJLipkin at aol.com<http://www.essentiallycontestedamerica.org/>
>wrote:
>>[snip]
>>
>> Finally, wherein lies the authority of the Court to decide
>> when an incapacitated Justice's vote should or should not apply.
>>
>>Bobby
>>
>>Robert Justin Lipkin
>>Distinguished Professor of Law
>>Widener University School of Law
>>Delaware
>
>
>Well, Bobby, if we start down that road, where is the authority for
>the Court to do just about anything about how it does business or
>organizes itself internally? Or even decides things by majority
>vote instead of requiring unanimity?
>
>Strikes me as over-the-mark positivist to say that the court can't
>do anything unless there is positive language in the constitution saying so.
>
>Steve
>
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