Justice Ginsburg

Scarberry, Mark Mark.Scarberry at pepperdine.edu
Fri Feb 6 13:05:58 PST 2009


I don't think there was any rule that the incapacitated Justice's vote wouldn't count, but just an understanding that Justices wouldn't write or sign on to an opinion if the incapacitated Justice's vote would be the necessary fifth vote. That could leave some cases undecided for a while, but that may not be so bad. Of course the understanding wasn't binding, and each Justice would exercise independent judgment in abiding by it.
 
Mark Scarberry
Pepperdine

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Subject: Re: Justice Ginsburg


Steve Jamar wrote:
 
        "Strikes me as over-the-mark positivist to say that the court can't do anything unless there is positive language in the constitution saying so."
 
        I don't think positivism has anything to do with this issue. In a so-called "limited government" possessing so-called "enumerated powers," I don't think discussion of these issues requires one to take a stance on jurisprudential theories. In any institution unstated practices will inevitably develop.  That hardly means democratic citizens seeking accountability should simply accept whatever the institution does as legitimate.
 
        Consequently, as to a discussion of the internal organization of the Court, including decision-procedures, I can only say such a discussion is a long time overdue. 
 
Bobby
      
Robert Justin Lipkin
Distinguished Professor of Law
Widener University School of Law
Delaware

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In a message dated 2/6/2009 8:28:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, stevenjamar at gmail.com writes:

	



	On Feb 6, 2009, at 7:54 AM, RJLipkin at aol.com wrote: <http://www.essentiallycontestedamerica.org/> 

		
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		        Finally, wherein lies the authority of the Court to decide when an incapacitated Justice's vote should or should not apply.  
		 
		Bobby
		      
		Robert Justin Lipkin
		Distinguished Professor of Law
		Widener University School of Law
		Delaware
		
		
		



	Well, Bobby, if we start down that road, where is the authority for the Court to do just about anything about how it does business or organizes itself internally?  Or even decides things by  majority vote instead of requiring unanimity?

	Strikes me as over-the-mark positivist to say that the court can't do anything unless there is positive language in the constitution saying so.

	Steve

	
	
	
	
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