stevenjamar at gmail.com
Sat Oct 20 18:18:59 PDT 2007
The problem with some of the infiltrations of the 60s and 70s was
that the agents were not mere observers, but also provoked the
Other than that aspect, I agree with Eugene.
On Oct 20, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Volokh, Eugene wrote:
> Well, I would certainly hope that the government was and is
> surveilling the KKK and similar organizations. In fact, one reason we
> can afford to tolerate speech that urges violence is precisely that
> government can surveill the speakers and, when possible, infiltrate
> relevant organizations so that people influenced by the speech can be
> stopped when they are attempting to commit crimes or conspiring to
> commit crimes, rather than after the crimes already take place.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: conlawprof-bounces at lists.ucla.edu
>> [mailto:conlawprof-bounces at lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Ilya Somin
>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 1:44 PM
>> To: guayiya
>> Cc: Discussion list for con law professors
>> Subject: Re: Jihadist blog
>> I'll leave the details to the First Amendment experts on the
>> list. But it seems to me that if the site is limited to just
>> generalized advocacy of Jihad, terrorism, etc., and does not
>> incite to specific crimes, it's not much different from
>> Brandenburg or some of the communist speech cases. Indeed,
>> Brandenburg arguably posed a greater threat than this
>> individual, because he was a top KKK leader and therefore had
>> more chance of successfully inciting followers to violence.
>> Ilya Somin
>> Assistant Professor of Law
>> George Mason University School of Law
>> 3301 Fairfax Dr.
>> Arlington, VA 22201
>> ph: 703-993-8069
>> fax: 703-993-8202
>> e-mail: isomin at gmu.edu
>> Website: http://mason.gmu.edu/~isomin/
>> SSRN Page: http://ssrn.com/author=333339
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