civil rights/con law question
Charles Sullivan
sullivch at shu.edu
Tue Feb 20 03:43:24 PST 2007
The unstated assumption of Professor Rosenthal's post is that only
minorities can avail themselves of the disparate impact theory. I spent a
lot of pages a couple of years ago, 98 NW. U. L. Rev. 1505 (2004),
arguing that the equal protection problem could be solved by allowing
whites or males to use the theory, and that there is nothing in the
language of the 1991 Civil Rights Act or its legislative history that
would prevent that conclusion. The implications of this would be
eye-opening, and acceptance of the theory would, if taken seriously,
intrude on employer prerogatives but there would be no hook to claim the
theory was unconstitutional.
Further, it can't be a problem that "the remedy for a disparate impact
violation is race-based -- people receive promotions or checks based on
their race." Checks and promotions are also issued in systemic disparate
treatment cases on a race basis to successful African-American plaintiffs
(and to successful white plaintiffs in reverse discrimination suits), but
so long as it's race discrimination that's the cause of action that's
inevitable.
In any event, a successful disparate impact challenge will typically
eliminate the practice prospectively for everyone -- not merely for
individual/class that sued.
<<<Hibbs upheld a gender-neutral law. Title VII's disparate impact test,
however, is not race neutral, and the remedy for a disparate impact
violation is race-based -- people receive promotions or checks based on
their race....>>>
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"Rosenthal, Lawrence" <rosentha at chapman.edu>
02/20/2007 05:19 AM
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RE: civil rights/con law question
Indeed, most disparate impact class actions are brought on behalf of
classes defined in expressly racial terms. Adarand holds that section 5
of the Fourteenth Amendment gives Congress no power to engage in
race-based affirmative action beyond that of state and local governments.
Thus, I have my doubts about whether the disparate impact test, at least
to the extent that it permits race-based remedies in the absence of a
constitutional violation, is going to survive Adarand.
Richard Primus wrote an article that appeared in the Harvard Law Review a
few years ago. Whatever its virtues as scholarship, that article (which
argued that disparate impact was constitutional) does not appear to me to
reflect the views of a majority of the current Court.
Larry Rosenthal
Chapman University School of Law
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Sent: Mon 2/19/2007 9:04 AM
To: Samuel Bagenstos
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Subject: RE: civil rights/con law question
The Supreme Court long ago held that Title VII was a valid exercise of
section 5 power, but it is certainly arguable that this should be
deconstructed in terms of various applications of Title VII. Sam is
correct that Hibbs suggests that Congress could go beyond the equal
protection clause in dealing with sex discrimination, and perhaps that
would justify applying disparate impact theory more broadly than would the
constitution.
But it wouldn't surprise me if the courts sliced and diced particular
applications of Title VII. The only example I know to date is Holmes v.
Marion County, 349 F.3d 914 (7th Cir. 2003), where the court rejected a
private suit against the state for failure to satisfy Title VII"s duty to
reasonably accommodate religion, obviously a duty that goes beyond what
the Court has held the first amendment imposes. The court did stress that
religious discrimination has a very different history than race
discrimination, but the point is that the Seventh Circuit was breaking
down the statute into component parts rather than viewing it holistically
as an exercise of section 5 power.
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Charles A. Sullivan
Professor of Law
Seton Hall Law School
One Newark Center
Newark, NJ 07102(973) 642-8870
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"Samuel Bagenstos" <srbagenstos at wulaw.wustl.edu>
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02/19/2007 10:00 AM
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RE: civil rights/con law question
Hibbs seemed to make that less likely - that's Robert Post's argument in
his Harvard Foreword. And I think all the lower-court cases uphold Title
VII disparate impact under Boerne. In any event, nobody really knows what
the standard is for disparate impact after the Civil Rights Act of 1991,
so it would be easy enough for a Court that wanted to to destroy disparate
impact without ever invalidating it on constitutional grounds.
Samuel R. Bagenstos
Professor of Law
WashingtonUniversityLawSchool
One Brookings Drive, Box 1120
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(314) 935-5356 (fax)
Personal web page: http://law.wustl.edu/Faculty/index.asp?id=198
Disability law blog: http://disabilitylaw.blogspot.com/
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[mailto:conlawprof-bounces at lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Malla Pollack
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:47 AM
To: conlawprof at lists.ucla.edu
Subject: civil rights/con law question
A basic question for those of you who do civil rights employment law. Any
movement towards killing the higher standard of Title VII (if disparate
impact, employer needs to show business necessity) in light of the
Rehnquist court's limit on Congress imposing "remedial" action on the
states? The Title VII standard has not been required by the Constitution
itself since Washingtonv Davis(1976).
Malla Pollack
Professor, American Justice School of Law
mpollack at ajsl.us <mailto:mpollack at ajsl.us>
270-744-3300 x 28
articles http://works.bepress.com/malla_pollack/ <
http://works.bepress.com/malla_pollack/>
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