FW: When life begins and the Establishment Clause

Volokh, Eugene VOLOKH at law.ucla.edu
Thu Apr 19 12:14:35 PDT 2007


    Then I don't grasp the significance of pointing to Richard's
"inability to come up with a non religious reason anyone would push this
statute."  Is it just that Richard wasn't the one who pointed to
Hentoff, but instead it was me?

    Eugene


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From: Malla Pollack [mailto:mpollack at ajsl.us] 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:11 PM
To: Volokh, Eugene
Subject: RE: When life begins and the Establishment Clause



Yes it does. And I acknowledged that some post ago.

 

Malla Pollack

Professor, American Justice School of Law

mpollack at ajsl.us

270-744-3300 x 28

articles http://works.bepress.com/malla_pollack/

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From: conlawprof-bounces at lists.ucla.edu
[mailto:conlawprof-bounces at lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:09 PM
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Subject: RE: When life begins and the Establishment Clause

 

    Hmm -- what do you say to the extended quote from Nat Hentoff, a
thoughtful, nonreligious man of the left who supports bans on
partial-birth abortions?  I would have thought that this did involve
"com[ing] up with a non religious reason anyone would push this statute"
(it was I who posted that, not Richard, but I assume this doesn't
matter).

 

    Eugene

	 

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		From: conlawprof-bounces at lists.ucla.edu
[mailto:conlawprof-bounces at lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Malla Pollack
	Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:04 PM
	To: 'Richard Dougherty'; 'Con Law Prof list'
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	I am perplexed by your perplexitty.  To anyone outside the
anit-abortion camp the tie to a certain subset of religuos groups seems
obvoius.  I would think that your inability to come up with a non
religious reason anyone would push this statute supports my belief.
The only analogy I can come with is the 17th century? claim that logic
would inevitably lead humans to religion and -oddly enough - to
Christianity.  This "logic" obvously came from the thinker's religious
background, but the thinkers could not see it. 

	 

	Malla Pollack

	Professor, American Justice School of Law

	mpollack at ajsl.us

	270-744-3300 x 28

	articles http://works.bepress.com/malla_pollack/

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		From: Richard Dougherty [mailto:doughr at udallas.edu] 
	Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 1:52 PM
	To: malla pollack; 'Richard Dougherty'; 'Con Law Prof list'
	Subject: Re: When life begins and the Establishment Clause

	 

	I have to admit that I am perplexed at this point.  The argument
is being made that this is an Establishment Clause violation, and yet
the only evidence that is proposed to prove this is what Congress and
the Courts have not said?  There is not a word in the two relevant texts
under review here that supports such a conclusion, so I think the onus
is not on the one disproving a negative. 

	Richard J. Dougherty

	
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	So what? All that shows is that legislators have not stated
plainly why they care about this.  What other basis exists?  

	 

	Malla Pollack

	Professor, American Justice School of Law

	mpollack at ajsl.us

	270-744-3300 x 28

	articles http://works.bepress.com/malla_pollack/

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		From: Richard Dougherty [mailto:doughr at udallas.edu] 
	Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 1:31 PM
	To: malla pollack; 'Richard Dougherty'; 'Volokh, Eugene';
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	Well, I just reread the text of the Act, and looked through the
39 pages of the Court's opinion, and the closest I can come to a
religious argument is a reference to acting "in good faith," which I
don't think has anything to do with religion in the context.  Am I
missing something?

	Richard J. Dougherty



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