"325 ,000" ?

[Volokh, Eugene]

    It seems that Judge Boggs' and my posts show that the YLJ student
Note's 325,000 number is unfounded -- the two sources it cites for that
number do not support the assertion that there are 325,000 names on the
No-Fly list.  That surely doesn't prove the number is wrong, only that
the sources given in the article do not support it.
 
    As I mentioned in a more recent post, there is a recent Washington
Post article that gives a 30,000 estimate.  Whether that's right or
wrong, I can't say, but at least it has some source behind it, as
opposed to the unfounded 325,000 estimate.
 
    I also don't know how many of the 30,000 (if 30,000 it is) are U.S.
citizens or even U.S. residents, though I'd love to hear it if others
have better data.
 
    Eugene



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	I just responded to Mark Tushnet saying all I know is in the
Yale LJ article and asking if the right number is 32, 325, 3250, 32,500
or 325,000?  You will note that my post, relying to that extent on the
article, uses the qualifier "arguably."
	 
	I am glad to see someone pursue the relevant fact question,
though I decided to leave the whole thing alone as most people seemed
interested in another question altogether.
	 
	If you have a means of showing that the Yale LJ number is wrong
and that there is a means of producing a more accurate number, I will be
grateful.
	
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	I tried to follow the links from the YLJ article(115 YLJ at 2153
n.15) (WaPo headline is only quoted use of  "325,000") but the only web
URL  led me to an ACLU site that stated the following 
	
	
	  


Frequently Asked Questions About the "No Fly List" (10/26/2005)

How many names are on the No Fly List and Selectee List? 
The exact number constantly fluctuates and is also a secret. However,
the TSA says that tens of thousands of names are on these lists.



	
	
	
	Danny J. Boggs
	
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