The Fallacy of the "New Originalism"

Janet Alexander jca at stanford.edu
Mon Sep 4 14:27:52 PDT 2006


The main burden of the opinion is the holding that, under principles of 
"public law," a court lacks power to extend its process outside its 
borders, and jurisdiction based on the presence of property within the 
state is not proper unless the property is attached at the beginning of the 
suit.  This holding is based on "general, if not universal, law," not 
constitutional law, and it was a wholly sufficient ground upon which to 
affirm the judgment below.  The dissent agreed with this principle, but 
denied that attachment at the beginning, rather than the end, of the suit 
was required by general law; it would have permitted state statutes such as 
Oregon's.  The discussion of jurisdictional power under general law 
occupies 14 pages of the Court's opinion.  The due process holding is 3 
paragraphs, occupying less than 2 pages.  (A further 2 pages are spent 
explaining what the opinion does not bar.)  Others can decide on reading 
the case whether the Court "uses" the general law "concept" (which I read 
as a holding) to "support" its holding.

Obviously the constitutionalization of personal jurisdiction was extremely 
important, and equally obviously, Shoe was a huge milestone in the law of 
due process.  Note that Shoe came a few years after Erie disposed of 
federal general common law, on which Pennoyer was based, after the Federal 
Rules replaced the common law writ system (and code pleading), during a 
transition from the 1st Restatement of Conflicts (based on territorial 
sovereignty) to the 2nd (based on relationship and contacts), and after 
realism displaced formalism (at least for a time).

The real issue in Pennoyer, to modern eyes, should have been the question 
of notice.  Both the majority opinion and the dissent in Pennoyer alluded 
to this problem (which would be addressed much later in Mullane) but were 
distracted from it by the state sovereignty issue, which was salient to them.

Janet Alexander


At 10:34 AM 9/4/2006 -0700, Rosenthal, Lawrence wrote:
>To be sure, Pennoyer uses a concept of state sovereignty to support its 
>holding, but from an originalist standpoint, that is pure dicta.  If we 
>define an originalist approach to due process as one that uses historical 
>understandings about what process was "due" to those facing a deprivation 
>of life, liberty, or property as of 1868, then it is plain that a 
>defendant had a right to be personally served in the forum state.  No 
>state authorized long-arm service, or even service by mail, as a means of 
>haling a defendant into court.  As Pennoyer (and the previous post's 
>fourth paragraph) explain, it was thought that the requisite notice could 
>be achieved only by personal service or the attachment/seizure of the 
>defendant's property.  Pennoyer's approach to due process, it seems to me, 
>is classically originalist.  It uses those rights that the common law had 
>granted defendants as of 1868 in order to measure what process is 
>due.  And if that is the right way to construe the Due Process Clause, 
>then International Shoe is quite wrong, as is Brady, as I argued in an 
>earlier post.
>
>Larry Rosenthal
>Chapman University School of Law
>
>________________________________
>
>From: Janet Alexander [mailto:jca at stanford.edu]
>Sent: Mon 9/4/2006 12:12 AM
>To: Rosenthal, Lawrence; conlawprof at lists.ucla.edu
>Subject: RE: The Fallacy of the "New Originalism"
>
>
>         I'm a bit bemused by the discussion of Pennoyer.  The legal 
> principle that dictated the result in Pennoyer was not about due process; 
> rather it was about the authority of states over persons and 
> property.  Following the custom of the time, these "well-established 
> principles of public law" were derived from international law.  Quoting 
> from Pennoyer:
>
>         "The several States are not , it is true, in every respect 
> independent, many of the rights and powers which originally belonged to 
> them being now vested in the government created by the 
> Constitution.  But, except as restrained and limited by that instrument, 
> they possess and exercise the authority of independent States, and the 
> principles of public [i.e., international] law . . . are applicable to 
> them.  One of these principles is, that every State possesses exclusive 
> jurisdiction and sovereignty over persons and property within its 
> territory.  . . . The other principle of public law . . . follows from 
> the one mentioned; that is, no State can exercise direct jurisdiction or 
> authority over persons or property without its territory.  [Citing Story 
> on Conflicts.]  The several States are of equal dignity and authority, 
> and the independence of one implies the exclusion of all others.  And so 
> it is laid down by jurists, as an elementary principle, that the laws of 
> one State have no operation outside of its territory, except so far as is 
> allowed by comity, and that no tribunal established by it can extend its 
> process beyond that territory so as to subject either persons or property 
> to its decisions."
>
>         This meant that a state court could only exercise jurisdiction 
> over a non-resident if the non-resident was personally served within the 
> state, or consented to the suit.  A state court could also exercise power 
> over non-residents indirectly, if they owned property within the state, 
> through its power over property within its borders.  In that case, the 
> court's power extended only to the property within the state (in rem or 
> quasi in rem) and not to the person (in personam).  This was a theory of 
> state power, jurisdiction, and conflicts.  It drew no force from the due 
> process clause.  The Court relied on copious authority decided before the 
> 14th Amendment, and did not mention the 14th Amendment in reaching this 
> conclusion.
>
>         Procedurally, one brought a person under the jurisdiction of the 
> court by service of process.  If jurisdiction was based on property, the 
> plaintiff had to get a writ of attachment.  Jurisdiction had to be 
> established by one of these methods before the suit could proceed.  Neff 
> did own property in Oregon, but the plaintiff had failed to bring that 
> property within the jurisdiction of the court by attachment before 
> proceeding on the suit.
>
>         The Court could have stopped there, resting its holding on the 
> general law ("public law", not constitutional law), and the case would 
> have been unimportant.  Instead, the Court made a very important due 
> process holding -- and one that was very much more innovative than 
> comments to the list have suggested.  Although the 14th Amendment had not 
> been ratified when the suit was brought, the Court declared that the 
> judgment of a court that lacked jurisdiction could be challenged as a 
> violation of due process.
>
>         "Since the adoption of the 14th Amendment to the Federal 
> Constitution, the validity of such judgments may be directly questioned, 
> and their enforcement in the state resisted, on the ground that 
> proceedings in a court of justice to determine the personal rights and 
> obligations of the parties over whom that court has no jurisdiction do 
> not constitute due process of law."
>
>         The Court went on to say:
>
>         "Whatever difficulty may be experienced in giving those terms 
> [due process of law] a definition which will embrace every permissible 
> exertion of power affecting private rights, and exclude such as is 
> forbidden, there can be no doubt of their meaning when applied to 
> judicial proceedings.  They then mean a course of proceedings according 
> to those rules and principles which have been established in our systems 
> of jurisprudence for the protection and enforcement of private 
> rights.  To give such proceedings any validity, there must be a tribunal 
> competent by its constitution -- that is, by the law of its creation -- 
> to pass upon the subject-matter of the suit; and, if that involves merely 
> a determination of the personal liability of the defendant, he must be 
> brought within its jurisdiction by service of process within the State, 
> or his voluntary appearance."
>
>         Pennoyer holds that due process requires that a court cannot 
> enter a valid judgment unless it has subject matter jurisdiction and 
> personal jurisdiction over the defendant.  The Court specifies personal 
> service within the state and consent, as I read the case, because those 
> are the methods that flow from the prevailing conception of state power, 
> based on international law/conflicts principles.  Pennoyer's due process 
> teaching about the validity of judgments rendered by courts without 
> jurisdiction remains true today; but our notion of the limits of a 
> state's power over out-of-staters has completely changed.  The world-view 
> of Pennoyer was rejected in Shoe, not Pennoyer's conception of how the 
> due process clause, not just the law of conflicts, constrains the power 
> of state courts.
>
>         Janet Alexander
>
>At 10:24 PM 9/3/2006 -0700, Rosenthal, Lawrence wrote:
>
>
>         Brady, a wholly nonoriginalist decision, forbids only one kind 
> of  "innovatation" -- finding new ways to suppress exculpatory 
> evidence.  That view may be nonoriginalist, but it is one most of us 
> would accept.  Pennoyer v. Neff, in contrast, accurately reflected the 
> original understanding of the Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause 
> if the rights guaranteed by the open-ended constitutional provisions are 
> properly construed in light of the legal arrangements extant at the time 
> of framing.  In 1868, it was thought that a defendant had a right not to 
> be haled into court absent personal service in the forum state -- 
> personal service (or attachment of real or personal property for in rem 
> jurisdiction) was thought to be "due process."  Pennoyer, however, wholly 
> forbids the kind of innovation embraced in International Shoe and its 
> progeny.  The strange thing about an originalist view of due process, 
> however, is that it would radically change the common law.  The common 
> law had long been receptive to innovations thought to increase fairness 
> -- as John Langbein has demonstrated, the development of the adversarial 
> criminal trial was itself the result of a process of tremendous 
> innovation, some of it statutory, but most of it done by judicial 
> decisions not dissimilar in character to the subsequent innovation worked 
> by Brady.  Due process had always been evolutionary until 1868, and there 
> is no evidence that the framers intended to change that in 1868.  The 
> originalist view of the due process clause that ties it to historically 
> accepted practices in 1868 is accordingly unfaithful to the original 
> meaning of due process.
>
>         Larry Rosenthal
>         Chapman University School of Law
>
>         ________________________________
>
>
>         Message: 13
>         Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 19:24:24 -0700
>         From: Bob Sheridan <bobsheridan at earthlink.net>
>         Subject: Re: The Fallacy of the "New Originalism"
>         To: Earl Maltz <emaltz at camden.rutgers.edu>
>         Cc: ConLaw Prof <conlawprof at lists.ucla.edu>
>         Message-ID: <44FA3CD8.9060806 at earthlink.net>
>         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>         The freedom to provide less discovery...leading to MORE accurate 
> results.
>
>         I'll ask my criminal law defense colleagues what they think.
>
>         rs
>         sfls
>
>         Earl Maltz wrote:
>         > States would be free to experiment with less discovery, perhaps 
> on the
>         > theory that it would ultimately lead to  more accurate 
> results.  I'm
>         > not saying that I would agree with this view--simply that Brady
>         > forecloses some options ("innovations") that would otherwise be
>         > available.
>         >
>         > At 05:21 PM 9/2/2006 -0700, Lynne Henderson wrote:
>         >> what is "experimental" about discovery/disclosure?  *Brady * 
> doesn't
>         >> require a one-way ratchet, so states  and feds remain free to 
> require
>         >> defense disclosure of alibi, insanity, diminished capity, etc.
>         >> defenses while requiring the prosecution to disclose all of its
>         >> evidence.  And even then the defense has to   "request" it to 
> trigger
>         >> *Brady.*
>         >> Lynne Henderson
>         >> On Sep 2, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Earl Maltz wrote:
>         >>
>         >>> Brady stifles innovation by preventing the federal and state
>         >>> governments from experimenting with other systems for dealing 
> with
>         >>> the issue of disclosure.
>         >>>
>         >>> At 12:23 PM 9/2/2006 -0700, you wrote:
>         >>>> why does *Brady* "stifle innovation?"
>         >>>> Lynne Henderson
>         >>>> On Sep 2, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Earl Maltz wrote:
>         >>>>
>         >>>>> 1.  First, the question of whether the due process clause 
> "stifles
>         >>>>> innovation" does not depend upon the question of whether one
>         >>>>> adopts a fixed
>         >
>
>
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>Janet Cooper Alexander
>Frederick I. Richman Professor of Law
>Stanford Law School
>Stanford CA 94301-8610
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Janet Cooper Alexander
Frederick I. Richman Professor of Law
Stanford Law School
Stanford CA 94301-8610
650.723.2892
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