Michigan and popular constitutionalism
Lupu
iclupu at law.gwu.edu
Thu Nov 9 10:36:24 PST 2006
The message below from Scott shows the basic error in Scott's
thinking. The people of Michigan did not override a decision of the
Supreme Court, which hadn't created the affirmative action program,
and certainly hadn't ordered the University to continue it. The people
of Michigan overruled the officers of the University, who had initiated
and implemented the program. That is a legitimate populist control
over state policy (the lawsuit will fail, just as the comparable lawsuit in
California failed), but why should we think of it as a "constitutional"
judgment? The constitution permits the state to have, or to not have,
an affirmative action policy of the sort upheld in Grutter. The university
chose to have such a policy, and the voters chose not to have it any
longer.
From: Scott Gerber <s-gerber at onu.edu>
To: RJLipkin at aol.com
Copies to: CONLAWPROF at lists.ucla.edu
Subject: Michigan and popular constitutionalism
> Bobby:
>
> Your answer doesn't address what happened in Michigan. The _people_
> voted _directly_ to ban affirmative action. The legislative process
> has nothing to do with it. It seems to me that the _people_ of
> Michigan have overridden the US Supreme Court's decision, which is what
> Ward Connerly was trying to do. As such, what happened in Michigan
> seems like a good case study in popular constitutionalism, although the
> outcome might not be endearing to left-leaning popular
> constitutionalists.
>
> Scott
>
>
> RJLipkin at aol.com wrote:
>
>
> >A popular constitutionalist, of a certain stripe, can embrace courts
> just so
> >long as he or she does not embrace judicial supremacy. Thus, one can
> be a
> >popular constitutionalist while favoring legislative overrides of
> judicial
> >decisions. In this case, the popular constitutionalist recognizes the
> role of
> >the courts in having their say on matters of constitutionality, while
> insisting
> >that the legislature has the final say on the matter. Hence, we need
> to
> >define "popular constitutionalism" with much greater precision than is
> usually
> >supposed.
> >
> >Bobby
> >
> >Robert Justin Lipkin
> >Professor of Law
> >Widener University School of Law
> >Delaware
> >
>
>
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> Scott Gerber
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