Non-feasance
Earl Maltz
emaltz at camden.rutgers.edu
Sun Apr 23 17:31:30 PDT 2006
In purely formal terms, it seems to me that, I think that since race is a
factor in defining "community", strict scrutiny applies under Arlington
Heights.
BUT it seems to me that formal doctrine was developed in an era dominated
by a romantic liberal view of race-related problems--particularly those
faced by residents of our inner cities. The fundamental question is not
segregation or integration--it is, "How can we best get these children the
tools and attitudes they need to have a chance to enjoy the benefits that
middle class people generally take for granted in our society." If that is
in integrated schools, then I am for integration. If that is in segregated
schools, then I am for segregation. If that is in schools operated by the
Nation of Islam, then I am for giving the children the opportunity to
attend those schools.
As to which is best, I will defer to those who live in the inner city
culture and are more intimately familiar with the problem.
At 07:54 PM 4/21/2006 -0500, Barksdale, Yvette wrote:
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>I am going to try this yet another time (now fourth try) to send through
>this time too many addressees
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>Subject: RE: Non-feasance
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>Hi, I dont think this has gone through, although I have sent it twice
>(lets try after editing out more of the prior messages).
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>Also, just to clarify re my point on current doctrine (since I have to
>resend anyway)
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>As to Mallas constitutional issue it seems to me the governments goal here
>is community control which is why I dont see why you have to identify the
>community by race in order to achieve the goal of community control other
>than the rhetoric of black/brown power, etc.
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>Grutter is thus distinguishable because there race neutral means were not
>sufficiently effective to achieve diversity.
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>And community control ok because comes under Washington/ Feeney analysis
>the classification community controlis race neutral, even if these
>communities are predominantly of one race (see Feeney where 98% of the
>veterans were men)
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>Also, the purpose is not race control, but community control (of this
>might be a more difficult sell because of the initial plan which was
>framed in race based terms but if the lines are truly drawn on the basis
>of factors other than race - such as economic, cultural, other ties then
>the new plan could be seen as a way to avoid discriminating on the basis
>of race like the 10% Texas plan, etc.
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>The John Marshall Law School
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>315 S. Plymouth Ct.
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>Chicago, IL 60604
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>(312) 427-2737 (phone)
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>(312) 427-9974 (fax)
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Barksdale, Yvette
>Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 5:24 PM
>To: 'matthewhpolsci at aol.com'; 'marty.lederman at comcast.net';
>'conlawprof at lists.ucla.edu'; 'lawcourts-l at usc.edu';
>'jperezmonf at panam.edu'; 'nakoma at aol.com'; 'holden.j at bigpond.net.au';
>'benniethompson at mail.house.gov'; 'Rscottva3 at aol.com'
>Subject: RE: Non-feasance
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> If one can find "communities" that have "geographic. cultural, social,
> political ties" independent of "race,"
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>No, the geographic, cultural, social and political ties are not
>independent of race. This is in large part, because the segregation of the
>past forced people into communities which were based upon race. See for
>example, the long history of housing segregation, political
>gerrrymanderings, public accommodations discrimination, etc. These
>practices forced people into communities which were race based. This meant
>that it was difficult, if not impossible, to form community ties
>that bridged racial groups.
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>And, white resistance to more than token integration (See for example
>Milliken v. Bradley,) etc, during the integrative ideal phase 60s, 70s,
>etcs), and the rise of Black Power, Brown power movements during the same
>era, meant that the Civil Rights movement did little to disturb the
>racialized nature of these communities.
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>These segregative patterns continue to the present day both
>exclusionarily (See for example, the recent study on the pervasiveness of
>discrimination by real estate agents steering minority buyers to minority
>neighborhoods, showing them fewer homes, etc.) and, inclusionarily (ex.
>this particular plan.) in fact there may be an argument that the
>communities are more cohesive, and more rigid.
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>However, the fact that race was a significant factor historical factor in
>shaping these communities, both minority and white, does not necessarily
>mean that they are not also social, economic, cultural, units, like any
>other communities.
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>Now question could the state draw school district lines based upon
>community ties within racially identifiable communities - I think the
>answer would be yes.
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>So question, why does the fact that a community happens to be racially
>identifiable mean that the line drawn based upon community is necessarily
>race-based? I think perhaps the question is whether the motive for the
>line drawing is race or is community.
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>And if you dont permit predominantly minority communities to have the
>benefits of community, because they are predominantly minority, and thus
>arguably race based then you are essentially penalizing them for the
>discrimination of the past - which divided our society into racialized
>communities to begin with.
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>I would love to hear your perspective on this
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>As to Mallas constitutional issue it seems to me the governments goal here
>is community control which is why I dont see why you have to identify the
>community by race in order to achieve the goal of community control other
>than the rhetoric of black/brown power, etc.
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>Professor Yvette M. Barksdale
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>The John Marshall Law School
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>315 S. Plymouth Ct.
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>Chicago, IL 60604
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>(312) 427-2737 (phone)
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>(312) 427-9974 (fax)
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