I suppose this means Luttig is now off the "short list"
Bob Sheridan
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Wed Dec 21 20:11:28 PST 2005
Why would the Supremes be anxious to take up a case in which they're apt
to have to mess with the president they put there.
I don't get the prediction favoring a near 100% likelihood of granting
cert.
More like 100% in favor of wanting to take a duck.
Now if it were the Warren Court...
rs
sfls
Barksdale, Yvette wrote:
>Well I guess the theory would be in - in the worse case scenario the
>administration lied to the 4th circuit, that would be a strong reason
>for the Supremes to take the case and reconsider the 4th Circ. opinion -
>which is now precedent for more expansive Prez power.
>
>(And of course, no one has ever accused the 4th circuit of being
>unsympathetic to Presidential authority - so the fact they are
>determined to preserve judicial review doesn't auger well for the
>President getting a pass here from the Supremes)
>
>yb
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>-----Original Message-----
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>Subject: RE: I suppose this means Luttig is now off the "short list"
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>That is an extraordinary opinion by Judge Luttig for himself and Judge
>Michael. In a variety of elegant and carefully couched ways, it drips
>acid on the President, the Attorney General and the 4th Circuit panel
>itself. But why does it make a cert. grant more likely?
>
>John Barrett
>St. John's
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: conlawprof-bounces at lists.ucla.edu on behalf of Stephen
>Bundy
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> To: marty.lederman at comcast.net
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> Subject: Re: I suppose this means Luttig is now off the "short
>list"
>
>
> People who know the history of the Padilla litigation better
>than I may have a different reaction, but reading the opinion I find it
>hard to avoid the conclusion that Judge Luttig thinks not just that he
>was manipulated, but also that there is a decent likelihood that at some
>point during the recent round of litigation before the Fourth Circuit,
>if not before, government advocacy in the case crossed the line into
>frivolousness or outright misrepresentation concerning the claimed bases
>for continued detention. Shades of Korematsu! Am I overinterpreting?
>
> Steve Bundy
>
>
>
> On 12/21/2005 1:09 PM, marty.lederman at comcast.net wrote:
>
>
> One of the most remarkable rebukes you'll ever see from
>a federal court to the Executive branch. It drips with contempt and
>pique; he realizes he's been manipulated to carry their water -- going
>so far as to do them the favor off making up out of whole cloth the
>theory that Padilla was being detained to prevent him from returning to
>the Afghan battlefield -- only to realize that the government's whole
>strategy was to avoid judicial review of the detention policies at all
>costs, to the point where, just after Luttig's opinion, DOJ says "thanks
>anyway, but never mind."
>
> http://pacer.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinion.pdf/056396R1.P.pdf
>
> The odds on a cert. grant just went up to somewhere in
>the neighborhoood of 100%.
>
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