Meaning of
Mark Graber
mgraber at gvpt.umd.edu
Sun Mar 28 20:23:58 PST 2004
Indeed, the New Republic during World War II described the pledge as the
"Hitler salute." The common argument in politics against GOBiTIS was it
looked too much like the Nazi salute. See Peters book on the Jehovah's
witnesses and Manwaring on the flag salute cases.
MAG
>>> Douglas Laycock <DLaycock at mail.law.utexas.edu> 03/28/04 4:53 PM >>>
My colleague Hans Baade had a similar observation about the Pledge the
other day. He said that no other democratic society require a daily
loyalty oath of its children, and asserted that many Europeans find the
idea appalling. Then he said that maybe it was necessary in an
immigrant nation.
Hans fled Germany as a child I believe, spent World War II in Turkey,
and has lived in the U.S. for more than half a century.
-----Original Message-----
From: Levinson <SLevinson at mail.law.utexas.edu>
To: rbarnett at bu.edu
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:58:13 -0600
Subject: Re: RE: RE: Meaning of
Apropos Randy Barnett's posting, I will take the liberty of mentioning
an episode about four or five years ago when I was teaching comparative
constitutional law to Eastern Europeans in Budapest. One of the cases I
assigned was West Va. v. Barnette, assuming that it would convey a
message of how tolerant the US was. Instead, several of the students,
especially one from Slovenia, was shocked that the school day began with
the pledge at all. For him, it was all too reminiscent of the pre-1989
reality that everyone was eager to shelve.
sandy
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